Thursday, 27 October 2011

A New Economy for Vintage Sellers

 

How do I price thee?  Let me count the ways...


I'm addicted to fast paced auctions and my favorite site is Live Auctioneers where exciting sales from around the world run daily.  One auction that caught my eye recently was Guernsey's sale of rock & roll memorabilia from Manny's Music, a renowned store in NYC since 1935, hailed as "where the stars shop".  It became a tradition that famous patrons would leave signed photos to Manny and he covered every inch of the walls with them.  



The collection being sold was astounding; signed pieces by the Beatles, Hendrix, Zeppelin, the Stones, you name it.  Also on the docket were items like records, artwork, posters, Lennon cels and 50 guitars including Elvis' first acoustic guitar (shown left) bought for him by his mother in 1946 when he was 11 years old even though he wanted a .22 rifle instead which they couldn't afford.  (Way to go Gladys!)  


My eyes popped when I saw their estimates.  OMG!  I thought, ok, I know this isn't my racket but would people really pay that much for an 8x10?  Most were sold in lots of 2 to 4 photos and we're talking the lowest estimates were for lots like 3 photos of the Commodores and the Impressions (who?) for $500 to well over $1000 for bigger names like those mentioned above and others like Sinatra and the Doors.  Elvis' Kay guitar was estimated at $350,000 to $500,000, unsigned and it's condition didn't look too hot either.  An item that piqued my interest was an original oil on canvas (shown right)  by former Beatle Stuart Sutcliffe from their Hamburg period during the early 60s, estimated at $300,000 to $500,000.  

I didn't watch the auction but did go back to see the results.  Guess I'm not as dumb as I thought; out of 480 items, maybe 35% sold.  Passed, passed, over and over.  Some items with high starts received no bids and I don't think any item brought in more than it's estimate.  Turns out Lennon's '79 Mercedes station wagon isn't worth up to $300,000 and the artwork shown here by McCartney failed to yield it's low estimate of $7000, imagine that!  I ask you, what kind of world do we live in when a Ramones and Marilyn Manson lot can't fetch a lousy $1200? 



The guitars were newer in general and averaged just $1000 a pop despite being signed by the likes of Clapton and Springsteen.  Not one of the older collector's guitars sold.  A 1953 Gibson Les Paul custom with a high estimate of $30,000 only reached a top bid of $15,000.  A Beatles 8x10 autographed photo brought in $4250 though it had a $15,000 wish.  Many of the photos that did sell brought in $150 range bids.  Elvis's guitar was passed along with Sutcliffe's artwork which received a high bid of only $110,000, in fact, all 4 of Stu's works were passed.  Add in 22% buyers fees, taxes and shipping and not only was the memorabilia unaffordable, it wasn't even remotely realistically priced.   The auctioneers should have listened to Dylan, "The times they are a' changing"...



There are few who haven't been affected by the economy.  It's been so long, I forget when it started.  Even the federal bailouts of 2008 are a blur.  When we're told it's improving, the next week the jobless rate goes up again.  Unfortunately for vintage sellers, the first thing to go on most people's budgets is unnecessary stuff like a pink ostrich boa.  Those luxuries go from shopping lists to wish lists.


That doesn't spell disaster though, sellers just have to learn how to adapt especially when it comes to pricing and choosing what we buy.  Combine ever changing collectors' needs with the abundance of vintage goods from all eras available online and the result is a buyer who can afford to be selective.  


Instead of looking at the present as a "bad" economy, I prefer to view it as a "new" economy.  No doubt, buyers are more interested in items with purpose these days.  I sell clothing so for me this means what I buy has to be wearable, it'll be much harder to sell a piano shawl or Victorian dresses sized -1.  I avoid smaller sized garments because most women just aren't built like Twiggy and I pay attention to trends.  The maxi dresses and mod wear I might have turned down before are good buys for me today.  In fact, pre-1920s is now closer to the bottom of my most wanted list though I would have killed for it 5 years ago.  My education cost me boxes of mistakes so like my buyers, I've learned to be selective.  Sites like Live Auctioneers provide a free education as long as you don't bid on anything of course!  Once you've signed up, you have access to results which can be enlightening.



I'm going on my fifth year selling online and have been told by long time sellers it was so much better before the last decade.  I've seen hundreds of vintage shops both on and offline close these last few years and still believe that if sellers can adapt, they can succeed.  




Sunday, 2 October 2011

The Lighter Side: Pros & Cons of Online Selling


There I was in my loft, surrounded by dozens of garments bags, boxes of listed stock, shelves crammed with hats and purses, boxes of more stuff yet to be listed and then of course those obligatory boxes of crap you swore would be sure fire sellers only to find out how wrong you were.  I raised my eyebrows and wondered, how did I get so much stuff and what in the hell did I need up here again?  

I went downstairs, careful not to trip over the reusable cardboard boxes I put on the stairs meant to go in the loft whenever I have to go up there but always forget to take.  I made myself a cup of coffee, moving the 2 hats I was listing out of the way so I wouldn't spill on them.  I wandered into the dining room that closely resembles a teenager's space.  In fact, the last time we actually saw our lovely 1930s walnut table was Christmas Eve, 2 years ago.  

I say I'll get some listing done today and promptly turn on my laptop and do a little surfing to take my mind off everything.  There's an article in Vogue about how 40s styles are back and reds, oranges and burgundies are all the rage.  Fantastic!  So glad more than half of that lot I just bought is 60s to 70s in blues, pinks and yellows.   

I checked my email to see if I had any sales - zip, 5 days now.  Oh wait, there's an email from RL about the new Google changes to item feeds.  No, that's not right, that doesn't really say I'll have to update 700 listings between my RL and RP shops does it?  

Argh!  WHY am I doing this?

For the next hour, I sat there trying to find some rhyme or reason to selling online.  There's isn't a seller who hasn't felt the same at some time.  It's the point where we wonder if it's worth it.  Feeling disheartened, I made a list of the pros and cons, trying to be as objective as possible.

Pro:  Working from home. 
Con:  I'll just keep my Betty Boop jammies on, I'm only going to the post office anyway. 

Pro:  Be your own boss. 
Con:  Nothing gets done when you haven't got some jerk to boot your butt back to work and ruin your day.

Pro:  I love the thrill of the hunt! 
Con:  My bank likes it too, especially when I exceed my credit limit.

Pro:  Finding good stuff for yourself when you're hunting. 
Con:  Good thing I have call display so I know not to pick up when that bank is calling.

Pro:  I learn so much from all the research I do, I bet I can go on Jeopardy!
Con:  Forget current events categories.  You have no time for tv or newspapers and think it's great too see Ron Paul in politics, it's about time the US had a black transsexual President. 

Pro:  I get the nicest buyers, wish I could have them over for tea and scones.
Con:  Well it WAS in ONE piece when I sent it to you! 

Pro:  Buying low.  Selling high.
Con:  Well, at least it's gone.  I was sick of looking at it anyway.

Pro:  I can type 200 words a minute!
Con:  Did you know "Just One ALEVE® Relieves Arthritis Pain For Up To 12 Hours!"?

Pro: Enhanced computer skills.
Con: "My greatest knowledge is I know nothing."  Thanks for putting that in perspective Socrates.

Pro: Google offers terrific web analyzing tools and anyone can master SEO so all sellers, regardless of size or money, can place high in search results.
Con: It's in Googlese.

Pro: PayPal gets you your money at the speed of sound!
Con: It takes your fees at the speed of light.

And finally, my personal fave...

Pro: Some people simply have no idea what they have!
Con: "Gee, I saw one on the Antiques Roadshow they said was worth three times what you're offering."

Shoot me now.

So why do we do it?  Damned if I know.  I think we're partially insane myself but I also know deep down, I love what I'm doing.  Not so much for the pros listed above, but more so because I just really love old stuff.  All of it, clothes, movies, music, you name it.  Call it nostalgia or whatever, everything was quality and just, well, better period.  There will always be moments of anxiety no matter the occupation but I think a job is easier when passion motivates you.

The best pros will always be this is mine and I did it myself.  When I get really frazzled, I visit my shop and focus on how much work went into it.  The endless nights spent learning about keywords, page rank and all that other good stuff.  So much confusion but you muddle through and now look how far you've come.  We will get overwhelmed at times so don't forget to pat yourself on the back once in a while and for heaven's sake, never lose your sense of humor!